Insofar as none of us are trained physisists and/or ichthioid behavorialists, most of what has been said in this thread amounts to anecdote and testimony-both of which wont add up to a hill of beans. Remember, anecdotes are little stories told and retold. We embelesh as well has suffer from the human condition of emotion and faulty memory when telling our stories. Testimony suffers from the same problems. Therefor anecdote and testimony cannot be used to properly answer serious questions about the nature of our universe, regardless of whether we are investigating the the visibility of the color red at various depths under water and its feeding influences on large mouth bass, or the affect of the electro weak force on the life of a neutron inside the core of a medium sized star. Why was the scientific method developed? Because over the years a genius or two would pop up and figure out through proper observation and experimentation answers to good questions(yes, there are stupid questions) which would contrast both common sense as well as the anecdotes and testimonies of people over the years. Prior to ranting on about a subject it is wise to investigate resources. Additionally, a basic understanding of the scientific method will arm the investigator as to the reliability of the research. At this point in my life I would rather read a good novel than do any serious research on the color red and its visibility under water. However it has been quite entertaining reading your thoughts about it all. Day before yesterday I boated five very nice red rock cod. It was only red rock cod that were hitting my bait-which was a 7" blue and green/silver flake swimbait and a 4oz red jig head. Does this prove anything? No, because it was not a well designed experiment. Will I use that combination again. You bet. But there is no garauntee that it will work. The bottom line is-fishing is fun. I like to think that much of what we fish with works at one time or another and every time out offers different conditions in which to try and get those ichthiods(I don't even know if thats the proper term) to ingest my artificial food. If you read this entire response-thank you. I just wrote it mostly to have fun writing and to play with some big words. I am able to write this but not smart enough to figure out how to post my dang pictures. I don't know how to change the file size! I am using a Mac with OS10.4 and Iphoto, my browser is Safari. Can anyone help me?