Seriously bummed that I had to work through the weekend...Thats why I don't take out to many people as I can never tell what's going to happen at work. Aerospace is a pain in the rump...But it pays for my fishing...I will get out, hook or crook! After Thanksgiving though, and will post any obsevations....Interesting that the fish were shallow like that but lockjawed. That's what I like about Casitas...Not much! To tell you the truth I'm going to target small fish patterns and Kicker fish...We all Know where but I am not even counting them in the bag until I've got my 5....E-Mail me and I'll let you Know WHY. Kripa@aol.com Thanx for your post as it restores my faith in this medium!