swimbait | Mon Sep-26-11 08:55 PM |
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#18250, "Los Vaqueros Trout Plants"
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On the environmental scoreboard, the score right now in my mind is 1 to 1.
We won the Shadow Cliffs back ponds issue.
The ongoing battle is over trout plants.
You, me and anyone with half a brain knows that stocked trout are not an environmental problem in our warm water fisheries. But the Center for Biological Diversity has sued the California Department of Fish and Game and forced them to study every single location in the state where trout are stocked to see if it's OK to stock trout.
In thinking about this (and boy have I thought about this) I think the best way to fight this right now is to go after one specific location and try to get trout stocked again.
I think Los Vaqueros reservoir near Livermore, CA is the place to wage the battle.
Los Vaqueros is as man-made as they come. There was a tiny creek there - dry most of the year - that was dammed up to make a lake that is filled with Delta water.
From that Delta water comes every possible variety of delta fish. Striped bass, silverside, Wakasagi Minnow, carp, threadfin shad, Sacramento Blackfish, etc. And in to that mix they've stocked landlocked king salmon, rainbow trout, kokanee salmon, brown trout, largemouth bass, channel catfish, and how knows what else (crappie, bluegill, ???)
The notion that stocked rainbow trout offer any substantive threat to native species (the species whose entire habitat was flooded by a lake mind you) is beyond absurd. It's ludicrous to the point of insanity.
And yet here we are, years after the lawsuit, and the CA DFG doesn't have the budget to conduct the right studies to prove the trout won't impact red legged frogs and tiger salamanders. On top of that, for some reason that I am still exploring, the Department is being required to get approval from the US Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) in addition to whatever survey they conduct.
This additional level of study is unprecedented at other locations on the approved waters list (do you really think USFWS signed off to stock Contra Loma or Rancho Seco!). It's complete nonsense and if I had to guess it's simply a legal maneuver from a beleaguered DFG that has become gun shy in the midst of legal action and bureaucratic mud.
So I don't know how to win this one. But I didn't know how to get Shadow Cliffs reopened either. And I've been after the trout stocking thing for a while now with no real progress yet. But I'm feeling buoyed by a little success and spoiling for a new fight.
Noah Greenwald and Deborah Sivas, if you are reading this, you are two truly sad and ignorant human beings. Ignorant to the environment you live in, naive to the reality of nature, naive to the complexities of of real ecosystems.
You've sued the CA DFG and forced them to make the environment worse. You've taken away recreation for the average citizen and turned kids to video games and drugs. You've sent people who would have been happy to catch a stocked fish off to hunt down our real native species. You've wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money that could have been spent protecting and improving the environment.
I'm tired of you and your wrongheaded, ignorant policy. Open your mind zealots. Get away from the computer and get out in to nature. Learn what you are really doing. Realize that all you've done in our warm water reservoirs is cause harm.
I'm coming after this one. Los Vaqueros. Trout. It's time to get it right.
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swimbait | Sat Oct-01-11 12:18 PM |
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#18269, "RE: Los Vaqueros Trout Plants"
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The marina folks are saying they have a good budget for fish stocking right now but with all the dam work going on and the corresponding closing down of the marina and a lot of the fishing access, they may wait until next year to plant.
I can understand why they are doing it. But in the mean time if the DFG can come in and stock this fall/winter it would be great to fill the gap through until next year.
One thing that I think happens with the trout is that it takes a certain volume of stocking to overcome predation by striper and birds and get to the point where trout fishing is solid. Other years from what I gather, you could go fish from shore throughout the year and get trout.
The last few years since DFG stopped stocking, they've been planting private hatchery trout only, and trout fishing has only been good during the stock. After that the striper, birds, and fishermen get the rest and there isn't much left to catch.
By next winter, if DFG and private stocks are going in, along with the lake refilling after the dam expansion, I think you could see quality trout fishing again. Which in turns bring more people to the lake and adds to the quality of the experience.
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swimbait | Thu Oct-13-11 07:52 PM |
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#18278, "RE: Los Vaqueros Trout Plants"
In response to Reply # 0
Thu Oct-13-11 07:53 PM by swimbait
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Day eleventeen, what have we learned...
DFG is saying the letter to FWS is going next week. This is really (no joke) pretty fast progress so I'm still feeling happy about Los Vaqueros potentially getting trout soon.
DFG indicates they don't have a full allotment of trout ready to go to Vaqueros should it open, but they do have some. So we may really see trout soon there.
I also learned today that the Pre-stocking Evaluation (PSE in acronym form) for San Pablo Dam is waiting one last approval before DFG trout can be stocked there again. The vibe is that's it's close. FWS doesn't seem to be involved in that one.
With San Pablo full of water and trout plants, there's some hope that big bass fishing could one day be good again. It's a small hope though with the ratio of spotted bass to largemouth bass somewhere around 20 to 1 at this point. We'll always remember the glory days, but San Pablo will never be the lake it once was.
I can tell you in no uncertain terms, San Pablo was the best Nor-Cal bass lake for fish over 15lbs up until 2006. There were dozens of fish from 15 to 19+ pounds in that lake. If not for the barni fishermen that illegally stocked spotted bass in the lake, it might have had a chance to regain that prominence.
The word at Coyote is that DFG doesn't have the resources to conduct the needed studies to secure approval to stock trout again. The blame on this one can be directed at the Santa Clara County Water District 100%.
You see... lake managers that manage their lakes for fishing like East Bay Regional Parks did the frog and steelhead evaluations themselves and provided DFG with the data. So places like Del Valle and the front lake at Shadow Cliffs could get trout right away after the initial shut down of stocking.
But the Santa Clara County Water district, from every indication I've gotten, doesn't care about fishing at their lakes. The park rangers and their union may be in favor, but the water district people could do without the hassle of recreational lake usage.
They're in it for the water, and things like stocked trout, quagga mussel, and MTBE fuel are all just a thorn in their side.
Someone should step and and run for the board. It's a free country after all. Do these people look like they ever go outside?
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