Dani, first off welcome to the forum. I hope Andy answered your questions for you! Andy thanks, as for your remark about the spreadsheet there is no formula that we have to simply punch in results and have it magically move people up and down in the cells and put them in the right order and calculate throw-outs and meeting points! If you can write a spreadsheet formula or a program that can do this for us, please! "hook us up" :P

mike