Yea, I use the Pac Bay wrapper also but I have another high speed lathe that my dad made for me for turning cork and hypalon. Have you tried turning down the entire length of hypalon? I have no problem shaping it but turning down the entire length is tough for me. I use dragon skin and the screen stuff used for sanding drywall...Wish I was able to find hypalon that comes skinnier so you don't have to take it down......Warren