I know burning huds works for muskies, anyway. I throw 16 rate of fall huds for muskies and as soon as they hit the water I start burning them in, breaking the surface with the tail of the bait every ten feet or so. I also continually rip them to get them to turn on their side flashing the white sides of the bait downward. I've caught muskies in mid to upper thirty degree water temperatures even, and they still always seem to come on hot and heavy behind the bait and I usually catch them on a figure eight. But I have yet to catch a bass on a hudd, so I'm not sure that it is the best way to fish them for bass. Some of the muskie waters I fish have phenomenal bass in them, and though I've caught them on a lot of muskie baits, I have never caught one on a huddleston. I could try to slow roll one sometime, but I don't seem to have the patience for some reason:-) But definitely not for lack of throwing them. Sometimes for days even.