I had an excellent guide. Rod Thigpin put me in the right spot on the 4th cast with his 10" stocker trout I got bit hard in about 25' of water on a slow roll. Rod netted the fish for me and we weighed her at 12 lbs 3 oz. We put her in the livewell for a while and then went to Randy's tackle shop for a pic to post on the wall. The Stocker trout works good do not let anyone teach you different. Those wings on the side create a disturbance that bass detect with their lateral line and in 25' of water they feed on that and profile. If anyone is looking for a guide I highly reccomend Rod Thigpin he will not fish in front of you, he coaches and puts you on fish. He is not a big tournament guy and will not keep info from you like a lot of tournament fishermen / guides will. Peace Rich