Wish I'd seen the posts about trolling earlier and would not have spend so much time trying. Seems like others are having same difficulty. We got two really nice ones, about 2lb each twins and lost a good one. Got two bass also a 2 and 3 lber on a purple/brown kinami 4" worm. One of them was followed by a couple of bigger ones, but they would not bite. great day on the water though.