Obvioulsy you youngsters haven't been around to fish some of the fine abu's that are still around. The old round silvers are still the finest reel for the money you can buy. The 4500 and 5500 C3 will hang in there with all the new reels. Granted they don't sport the $300.00 price tag that some of the Shimano and Diawa have, but not everyone has that much to plunk down on a reel. I still to this day have not found a baitcaster that will out perform or cast an old 1500 or 2500C with 6 to 8 lb test!!!!!! Ain't going to happen. There isn't a reel out there that will. The new Morrum are sweet but a little pricey. I will have to agree that Abu's spinning reels are not what Shimano or Diawa put out but for the price they are a quality product.