Thanks for the advise!! We have gone to the site near Tierra Subida and Avenue S...maybe there are better spots. I will check out your e-mail as I get an opportunity. We are really excited about fishing and I feel that psycologically, our profile must be approaching a that of a compulsive gambler who thinks that one more quarter will win the jackpot. Yesterday I had a 3 oz sinker (big) on the line because the day before our lines were getting carried around in the current, but this seemed too heavy for anyone (of my boys) but me to cast.

Do you do anything to the livers? I noticed that the second day we went out, after they were in the sun for a while, they were much more ripe, which seems like it would qualify for "stink bait" which everyone tells me I need.