Thanks for the tip. I feel like a true novice when it comes to the "little tips" that help you do it right, and this is what I am looking for. My boys (8 and 6) when to the aqua duct again today and got skunked for the second time. we had fun but it is disappointing not to catch anything. We were using chicken liver and some shrimp....nada. I did learn one good lesson over several lost rigs of tackle- don't cast near the bouys or ladder, your line will snag on the gear and then it's over. The other day we went at night and got nothing, today we went around 3pm. We'll keep trying.