I was out there with a buddy of mine yesterday also. Tough day to say the least. we were marking fish on the bottom in 35 to 40 feet. we were dropping everything on their heads and blanked. the only action was a couple of follows and swipes on the castaic and live trouts. the weather seemed good with the over cast for most of the day. the final nail in the coffin was struck when a shore fisherman slayed a 5 in our face with a night crawler. that fish never saw the sunrise today. It was good to be out there though and the lake is cool