i finally got on this, but i have been reading on these forums for quite a while...i'd like to thank everyone who puts up their information willingly to help kids like me learn to become better anglers, i know i have applied many things i heard here to my everyday fishing....also Rob B. for moderating this and keeping ingnorant people off. "ignorance is NOT bliss" hahaha. now i can chime in and hopefully give some info that will help others in their search for the fish of a lifetime......