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woodsac | Thu Jan-29-04 01:30 PM |
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#3855, "RE:"
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There is a time and place for all of the sizes you mentioned. One way to look at is like this:
If you are sitting at the dinner table, HUNGRY, and they bring 2 plates, one with a 7 oz steak and one with a 10 oz steak, which one would you pick?
Probably the 10 oz. Why pass up a big, easy meal (they're both right in front you)? :9
I know at certain times smaller meals will outperform the larger ones. But that's usually of case of quality vs. quantity.
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swimbait | Thu Jan-29-04 02:14 PM |
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This is always a fun thing to talk about, because bass are bass, and they are just unpredictable critters. I've seen it where fish would barely look at 7 and 9" lures, but when I put out the 12" they were all over it. Sometimes it goes the other way. You throw the 12" for nothing, and then switch to a 9" and you get some bites. There's no science to it, it's a matter of figuring it out over time.
The main dilemma in trying to figure out this kind of stuff, is that most days you only get 1 or 2 bites if that. How do you pattern fish or put together a theory on bait size, when you only get 1 or 2 bites? It's really hard.
I think people get the idea that you can go out with a big bait and get bit like you would with a worm or a senko or a spinnerbait or whatever. It's just not like that at all. If I look back in time at how many casts with the stocker trout it took before I got a 10+ on it, it's easily easily 10,000 casts. 10,000 casts and 4 fish over 8lbs. That's a lot of casts with no bites. If I look back just at my last 4 fishing trips, I've only caught three bass. Two trips I got skunked fishing almost all day. One trip I caught 2 smaller fish, and the last trip I got a 12. That's about right on par for me. I blank half the time, I stick some small fish, and I get one slug. If I lived in San Diego, I'd probably get a fish over 10 every 10 or 15 trips instead of every 5 to 8 trips. In SD and So-Cal and even on the Central Coast you get everyone out throwing big bait. The fish get used to it and it makes it so much tougher. Up here I can run around to 6 or 10 different lakes and try to find some fresh fish to throw at.
foods for thought anyway.
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Hooked_Up | Wed Feb-16-05 03:13 PM |
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I seem to have alot more luck on the 7inch. Still on big fish. At night, the larger baits work better though, for me anyways. Ofcourse i live in Va where they dont stock trout in lakes anywhere near where i live.. Aggravating but the swim baits still catch nice fish.. Talk is cheap; Just show me the picture!
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Urban | Thu Feb-24-05 10:01 PM |
Member since Sep 22nd 2004
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#5840, "RE: re:"
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10,000 casts with the stocker before getting bit on it? Well, based on that cast to bite ratio, Im due for a fish on my stocker. Ive been fishing that thing for a year and aint had a bite on it yet, but its a proven bait and my time will come. I threw all day the other day, and as best as I can tell my cast count is in the 9,000 range, lol! Im close.
I know this post deviates from the original subject matter, but one thing I have figured out for sure, and Rob touched on it, is that fish are getting conditioned to the big baits, its not that easy anymore. Im convinced that the lake I primarily fish with the big baits is likely one of the most difficult to stick a fish. And Im getting to the point where I think if I start targeting lakes that dont see the big baits as frequently, that Id be much more successful. Its not that difficult to identify the key locations in the small lakes, and its not that difficult to fish different baits at differnet depths in those spots. And its not that difficult to target the right weather pattern and time of year. Thus, it has to be conditioning, and in that situation the only option is maximizing time on the water. Do that, and its just a matter of time before something significant happens. And its been proven that the bigger baits are better. Therefore, no doubt that I will likely never throw a bait smaller than 9 inches, no reason to test a theory when I cant spend all day every day on the water. When bites are far and few between, and when you have limited time to formulate your own theories, why go against a proven idea.
Being a short white guy I hate to say this, but bigger is better!
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