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ben23 | Wed Aug-03-05 06:01 AM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3288, "help me out guys!!"
Wed Aug-03-05 06:02 AM by ben23
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I'm going on vacation to virginia to my grandmothers house.
She lives in a house on a man made lake (lots of other houses on it)
It is relitively clear and supposedly really deep in the center.
There are lots of catfish and whiteperch that I have caught, but cant catch a bass!!!!!!
i need your help, i dont know what to do
the body of water is like a big pond, not a lake, and there are no docks for shade
There is some trees on the opposite side where there are no houses that provide shade, but it is shallow there.
about 2/3rds of the lake has town houses (all identical)
where the houses are, there are rocky banks(building rocks).
there is a drop off that goes from 2 feet to about 5 feet......located where the rocky banks are about 4 feet out into the lake
if i'm not mistaken there are also underwater grass located in some parts of the lake
I'm really killing myself that I have not caught a bass, because they are there (people have caught some)
my gameplan is to use a jerkbait with spinning outfit (like KVDlol) and plastic worm (slip sinker, texas rigged) to cover water
please help me out...i'm soo anxious to conquer that stinking oversized pond
hope this wasnt too confusing
BEN god bless
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RE: help me out guys!!,
Urban,
Aug 03rd 2005, #1
RE: help me out guys!!,
ben23,
Aug 03rd 2005, #2
RE: help me out guys!!,
magmaster,
Aug 03rd 2005, #3
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Urban,
Aug 03rd 2005, #4
RE: help me out guys!!,
d_big_fish,
Aug 03rd 2005, #5
RE: help me out guys!!,
ben23,
Aug 04th 2005, #6
RE: help me out guys!!,
ben23,
Aug 04th 2005, #7
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dockboy,
Aug 05th 2005, #8
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ben23,
Aug 06th 2005, #9
RE: help me out guys!!,
Urban,
Aug 07th 2005, #10
RE: help me out guys!!,
ben23,
Aug 09th 2005, #11
Visualize whats out there.....,
Urban,
Aug 09th 2005, #12
RE: Visualize whats out there.....,
ben23,
Aug 10th 2005, #13
RE: Visualize whats out there.....,
Windsorangler,
Aug 12th 2005, #14
RE: Visualize whats out there.....,
magmaster,
Aug 12th 2005, #15
RE: Visualize whats out there.....,
bassnet,
Aug 12th 2005, #16
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ben23 | Wed Aug-03-05 10:35 AM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3290, "RE: help me out guys!!"
In response to Reply # 1
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umm last year the water clarity was pretty clear
i guess you guys would call it stained its probably about 4 feet clarity
Truthfully i've never caught a dropshot bass...definatly something i need to learn
does it work well on grass?
yes.....paddle boat.....i'm hopefully brining my 30# thrust minn kota
thanks
BEN god bless
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Urban | Wed Aug-03-05 07:35 PM |
Member since Sep 22nd 2004
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#3292, "RE: help me out guys!!"
In response to Reply # 3
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The other thing is you didnt mention what types of weeds. Hard weeds with nice defined edges, weeds with clean holes, slimy weeds, weeds that grow 4 feet off the bottom, etc.
If they are non-slimy and hard with well defined edges and clean holes, fish both the breaks and holes with a texas rigged drop shot, I use a size 1 gamakatsu g-lock hook paired with a straight tail roboworm (3/8 oz weight is standard), pick your favorite color it probably doesnt matter much. You can pitch the dropshot into holes with this get up. Also, on the wedge edges, you will without a doubt hit weed clumps, and this get up will come through nicely. I usely get bit right next to the clumps. Keep messing with the leader length until you find something that works, I usually start at 4 inches, then move up. With weeds that grow off the bottom 3 or 4 feet, well, make a 4 or 5 foot leader. I dont know how deep your lake is but dont be afraid to fish deep, you just have to get it in your head that the fish are well off the bank. Just cast out (this isnt a vertical only thing), and slowly drag the weight back to the boat keeping weight on bottom. Dont be afraid to just let the rig sit for extended periods, the fish will come right up and eat it.
This time of year, there is no reason you shouldnt be able to catch fish with a drop shot, you just gotta give the technique time, and give yourself time to figure out the subtleties and gain confidence in it. Let us know how it works out for you.
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ben23 | Thu Aug-04-05 05:20 AM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3294, "RE: help me out guys!!"
In response to Reply # 5
Thu Aug-04-05 09:43 AM by ben23
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thanks guys
ok, so drop shotting sounds like it will be my plan
i truthfully do not remember what type of grass it is, i just know it was grass....lol
if i had a depth finder i might be able to find the deeper stuff, but i'll look i'm gunna pick up some supplies at basspro today...we are leaving at 8 tonight
i hope i wont get skunked, man this lake has done it to me before though! yeah, i'll use the small roboworm, because a bass of any size would eat it
phillipians 4:13 is one of my favorite verses too!! god bless
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ben23 | Thu Aug-04-05 09:40 AM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3295, "RE: help me out guys!!"
In response to Reply # 6
Thu Aug-04-05 09:44 AM by ben23
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what model of roboworms were you talking about?
ok: went to basspro today during my lunch break and picked up some: 2-kvd wild shiner suspending red wide gap treble hooks(replace stock hooks" red split rings lots of various g lock gammie worm hooks i could not find roboworms so instead got 4.5 inch ringworms for dropshotting purposes, and picked up some bass pro shop handpoured drop shot minnows and of course..some more drop shot weights
i think i'll be all set, i'll hopefully be fishing tomorrow at the lake
ANY other techniques for dropshotting???, u california guys are great with dropshots
thanks
BEN god bless
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dockboy | Fri Aug-05-05 08:56 PM |
Member since Jun 09th 2005
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#3299, "RE: help me out guys!!"
In response to Reply # 7
Fri Aug-05-05 08:59 PM by dockboy
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yeah, there's plenty of ways to use a drop shot. While most guys out your way think of dropshotting only as a deep-water technique, you can use it just about anywhere as long as the water is somewhat clear & the cover is not too heavy. Sure, it was developed for small, clear reversiors w/ lots of fishing pressure. But that doesn't matter to the fish! Try a drop shot in shallow water or during the spawn. When nothing else works when you see bass shallow, the drop shot works very well. And during the spawn, you can get the bait to hover over the nest right in front of the bass' nose to show 'em something they likely haven't ever seen before. It's a great rig for docks, too. Just experiment with the sinker weight & dropper lengths for each condition(As a note, 20" has been a good length for me in many situations). Out there in Minnesota many bass have probably never seen a drop shot, so chances are you'll do great with it. :7
One note on sinker size; shalow fishing demands a lighter weight(1/8th or 3/16 oz.) where deeper fishing demands is vice versa(1/4 or 3/8ths oz.) Experiment with your baits' size to; you can fish a 6" bait on a drop shot just as well as a 3 or 4" bait on a drop shot, so don't be afraid of the small bait syndrome so many Eastern guys seem to talk about. Good luck & tight lines! Bass + Fisherman= BAASS ADDICTT!!!
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ben23 | Sat Aug-06-05 07:46 PM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3304, "RE: help me out guys!!"
In response to Reply # 8
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well i caught some!!!!!! i got 7 bass , 5 of which were over 12 inches...., i got a few on topwater early on, then i got a couple on dropshot in the shallows, and a few on my KVD jerkbait
The curse is broken, and there are tons of bass fry, so trhat means the lake is healthy
BEN
thanks
god bless
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ben23 | Tue Aug-09-05 01:33 PM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3330, "RE: help me out guys!!"
In response to Reply # 10
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but i have no means of finding anything for the fish to relate to, i should just do it in deeper water?
BEn god bless
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Urban | Tue Aug-09-05 06:12 PM |
Member since Sep 22nd 2004
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#3331, "Visualize whats out there....."
In response to Reply # 11
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....using clues you can see. Remember, the shape of the shoreline will tell you what is under the surface, land features almost always extend out into the water. Points are a perfect example. Can you see weedbeds? Well if you can, move out deep until you cant see them anymore, then use the dropshot to feel your way along the bottom until you can figure out where the weeds end (and where bass will be!), and try like heck to fish that weedline. Or, position your boat where you would cast to the shoreline or docks, then just turn around and cast towards the middle of the lake and slowly drag the dropshot back.
Like I said, you just have to have confidence that the fish are out in deeper water, even though you cant see anything they are relating to.
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ben23 | Wed Aug-10-05 06:50 AM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3336, "RE: Visualize whats out there....."
In response to Reply # 12
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gotcha
well this year there seems to be no weeds of any kind
the lake was manmade, so the points really dont add an contour to the bottom,
no docks either x(
the bass were some sort of smallmouth/ largemouth mix it seemed, and some looked to be a whole separate species from another
i think i might sink some trees the next time i'm down there to give the bottom something other than sand
BEN god bless
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