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ben23 | Tue Apr-19-05 06:03 PM |
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#3050, "Career options in FISHING?"
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I'm coming to the age (15) where i need to start planning what carrer to take, of coarse we would all like to major in fishing, i understant that I probably wont. I do beleive that bass fishing is a growing industry, and I am wondering what carrer choices I have that will keep me involved with the sport, like lure making, reel building, design, fisheries/ outdoor guide, etc.
I'm sure a few of you work for fishing companies,( pm me if you dont want to blow your cover), that know what career choices that involve outdoors/ fihing activities or design.
Thanks for any help!!
BEN
ps: i miantain a 4.0 gpa and am in many accelerated classes god bless
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RE: Career options in FISHING?,
brian,
Apr 19th 2005, #1
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CJ,
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SWMB8R,
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ben23,
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magmaster,
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swimbait,
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ben23,
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salmonoid 1,
Apr 20th 2005, #8
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ben23,
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RE: Hey Ben, shoot me an e-mail,
Urban,
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kidbasser,
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wils,
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bassnet,
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centralcalcat,
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BassDaddy,
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FISH JC,
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bassnet,
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CJ | Wed Apr-20-05 12:44 AM |
Member since Nov 02nd 2001
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#3052, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 1
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I think I have a little credibility on this subject. I have been on the bass tackle retail scene for 12 years now and can tell you a few things.
Number One- If you like to fish, stay away from the retail tackle game. When fishing gets its best, you have to work the hardest and the most days(hours). This doesn't let up in the slower times of year (winter) when you have to work hard just to keep the business coming in the door.
Number Two- If you want to work as a rep for a tackle manufacturer, see Number One and add numerous hours and travel time doing show(many of which are all-species, be ready to answer trout, catfish and barracuda questions all day long)
Number Three- if you want to be a rod-wrapper, tackle manufacuter, etc. be ready for back-stabbing pirates who will copy any non-copywrited idea and have it made in China for pennies on the dollars that you'll spend in production for an original idea.
NOW, if you are not scared away totally, get a part-time gig on a sport boat, or tackle shop (as Brian suggested) make some connections and feel out your career path. It's a hard business, but I'd rather spend the day talking about MS Slammmers and plastic worms than spread sheets and market analysis. Unless you open a tackle website, then be prepared for all of the above and more.
Good Luck, we need more dedicated guys in the tackle industry!
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ben23 | Wed Apr-20-05 12:23 PM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3056, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 3
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thanks, all that definantly makes a lot of sense
does anyone have any experience in the biology aspect of fishing/ fisheries?
It seems like its hard to make it in the fishing industry, even though it is a 12 billion dollar business.
I'm definantly dedicated enough to work hard to get teh job done, i just know that if it has to do with fishing, i'll be captivated.
But i'm planning on having a family and dont want to make the same amount if I was working at a mcdonald's
please keep those suggestions coming
THANKS SOO MUCH
BEN god bless
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swimbait | Wed Apr-20-05 01:49 PM |
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#3058, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 5
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I always like to talk to people in the industry to try and see if they are really making any money and if they ever get to fish. The answer honestly is that there are very few people who are actually getting rich on fishing and getting to fish a lot.
If you're a small shop or lure business, odds are you are going to be working 6 to 7 days a week 60+ hours a week to make a decent living. If you work for a big tackle company, it may not be much different than working for any regular type of business.
Some people have been successful with turning small lure companies into larger companies, but there are always tradeoffs. If you make a custom lure that requires skill to make, you might find that hiring other people to make the lure or sending production out of the country results in a decline in quaility and a corresponding decline in sales. If you were really serious about going into the lure business, I'd get some type of degree in manufacturing so that if you do invent the next sweet beaver, senko, or huddleston deluxe, you can organize the production processes to make volume. Fishing lures can come into popularity in a few months and if you don't have the production capabilities to meet the demand, you're going to be losing a lot of money. Trust me, there is no shortage of people out there who have huge demand for their lures but because they can't meet the demand and maintain quality, they're just making average money.
Me ... I'm a tech monkey. My degree is in Business Administration with an emphasis in MIS. Its a long way from fishing, but like magmaster said, I have a flexible arrangement at work so I get to fish a lot.
Whatever you do, you can't go wrong going to college and getting your degree. You've got some time to plan, and you're doing the right thing starting early.
-Rob
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ben23 | Wed Apr-20-05 02:10 PM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3059, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 6
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I'm definantly going to college, no question well as of now, college might be free (lots of Basketball scholarships have started coming in the mail)
This really tourments me knowing that there is so much business oppertunities, that would allow me to fish and play basketball, while making a substantial amount of money
but the things I like are:
fishing outdoors (i would hate to be locked up in a cubical all day) basketball
maybe a degree in biology like fisheries/ outdoor management would do the trick.? But after college what jobs does this degree deal with?
Being an atletic trainer would also be something of intres for me, but I think those hours are huge.
But I have some killer ideas for my own custom baits,but i know the lure making industry is extremely difficult.
SO its a hard decision
thanks for the help and keep the help coming
BEN
god bless
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ben23 | Wed Apr-20-05 02:53 PM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3061, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 8
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yes, i know, i need to edit my posts before posting but thanks for the encouragement BEN god bless
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ben23 | Wed Apr-20-05 05:19 PM |
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#3063, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 10
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thanks guys, this advice is perfect
Marine biology is something i'm definantly interested in
what branches of marine biology would mean spending time on the water
I would love to study freshwater fish patterns, cause i have no doubt that that would help my fising!!
I know that Doug Hannon studies bass, so something like that would be great.
Something I'm unclear about is how Biologists make Money? Are they just paid to do research???? Or is there some sort of product that makes money?
Thanks
BEN god bless
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bassnet | Wed Apr-20-05 08:13 PM |
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#3064, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 11
Wed Apr-20-05 08:15 PM by bassnet
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Marine Biology could be a good way to go. I see you're from the Northeast, Woods Hole in MA is legendary when it comes to marine biology- UCSD and UCSB in California have epic marine biology programs, a biology degree can go a long way- Whatever you do, you'll probably change your mind ten times in the next few years, but if you have the opportunity, get your degree, that will open doors in whatever you want to do- Even if your degree isn't specifically what you're targeting, it will put you head and shoulders above others going for the job you want- like others said, even if your career isn't in the fishing industry, it's nice to be able to afford fishing when and where you want to. Good luck, you're definetly on the right track!
Guys like Ken Cook have learned a lot from the biology side and had epic fishing careers; lots of opportunity in aquaculture and stuff as well- It's a big world full of hungry people who will pay to eat fish!!
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Urban | Wed Apr-20-05 11:32 PM |
Member since Sep 22nd 2004
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#3066, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 12
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Marine biology doesnt sound like thats what Ben is interested in. Marine means saltwater, and he seems more interested in freshwater. Plenty of colleges out there offer a fisheries biology degree that focuses on freshwater, and many really focus on bass. And Ben, many of these schools have excellent basketball teams as well (such as North Carolina State). And, Univ of Vermont has an excellent fisheries program. Wouldnt hurt my feelings any spending four years fishing for smallies on Lake Champlain (the campus is right on the lake)!
Really, your options are endless in fisheries. But, if thats what you want to do you need to start thinking about things now. For example, there are two main arenas in fisheries: research and managment. Researchers find the answers to questions, and managers (like DFG) use those answers to best manage fisheries (well, thats the way its supposed to work). The third arena is regulatory, ya know, the people who hold people/companies/corporations to compliance with environmental laws like the endangered species act. I would strongly suggest not getting involved in arena number three, its pure politics.
Either way, youve got lots to think about, but your starting to think at the right age. I didnt start thinking until I was in my early 20's! Doh! No wonder I still dont own a Ranger.
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BassDaddy | Thu Apr-21-05 10:29 AM |
Member since Jun 17th 2004
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#3067, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 10
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It's awesome to hear the guys on this board to tell you to stay in school...ECHO. I thought your reaction to the suggestion of being more conscientious regarding your spelling shows you are mature and coachable. I have a suggestion no one else has offered. Go to college and consider being a teacher. If teaching appeals to you, it might be the answer you are looking for. First of all, don't listen to the people who tell you teachers are poor. Underpaid, maybe... but if they are poor it is by choice. Teachers work 180 days or so a year (depending on who they work for) Do the math...that is only half the days of the year. Teachers work excellent hours. I'm not going to say "short days" because only lazy teachers work short days. But if you manage your time, you will have a plethora of time to fish or to make money through other means. If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a teacher. When I'm not teaching I run a small business that allows me to supplement my teaching income (to be able to purchase any fishing equipment I desire). When I'm not taking care of my seasonal business, I still have time to fish 150+ days a year. My business operates in the summer. It is not related to the fishing industry, but yours could. I have a friend who is a teacher and for years he was a fishing guide in Alaska during the summers. Not only did he make excellent money, his teaching schedule matched the peak demand for guides. By the way, if you want to significantly increase your earnings as a teacher, get a Master's degree. In any event, continuing your education is the answer. Good luck with your decision. There are plenty of quality choices out there if you prepare to take advantage of them. Tree Happiness is a tight line and a stiff pole.
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ben23 | Thu Apr-21-05 01:19 PM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3068, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 15
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These suggestions are definantly helping me. The hard part is making the right decision on which career path to take. There are so many choices out there that I want to explore.
I'm going to do some research right now.
Thank you for the help and more help is absolutely welcomed
BEN god bless
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SharkGirl | Fri Apr-22-05 05:56 AM |
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#3069, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 16
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Hey, ya sound like me a few years ago. Me being a female, and a mother of two, it's really not a possibility to be a deckhand or captain. :) So I chose online retail and biology. (Just what everyone on this board is saying!) I actually started my major in something else and changed to a double major of biology and graphic design two years ago. And yes, I will pursue as a marine biologist, as well as keep my business going online.
There are many choices just as everyone said, but after doing a lot of thinking, there are really only a few that are profitable. I chose the two I thought most profitable. If I didn't have two children, (or was a woman) boy would I love to be a deckhand or a captain and be out at sea all day. (Not impossible in it's entirety seeing as Cpt. Greenlaw did it in The Perfect Storm) :)
Good luck in your decision and yes, college is a must! Sandra Love - Love's Outdoors & Sporting Goods http://www.sbsociety.net http://www.sbsociety.net/forums http://www.sbsociety.net/topsitesphp
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ben23 | Sat Apr-23-05 03:57 AM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3071, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 17
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Thanks again for the help,
there are indeed a lot of choices that would enable me to be close to fishing, Right now I'm looking into fisheries science and management. Teaching also sounds good, I would probably love to be a science teacher, and have the hole summer to fish.
HMMMMMM
keep that help coming
THANKS
BEN god bless
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Striper | Wed Apr-27-05 11:57 AM |
Member since Nov 27th 2004
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#3081, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 0
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Ben, I worked as a fisheries manager for over 20 years, which included, fish hatchery management, fishing resort management, fishing lake management and part-time fishing guide but, unfortunately there is not much demand for fisheries managers or even fisheries biologist, if you plan on working for the state of California. With all the budget cuts, these jobs are the first to go and have been routinely eliminated for many years. I had to go to Idaho and Alaska for work. I would still suggest going to school and getting a minor degree in biology and a major in a specialty like Ichtheology (biology of fishes). Plan on working for another state, unless you would like to teach or go in to the private sector. Dave.
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ben23 | Fri Apr-29-05 01:34 PM |
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#3083, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 22
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yeah, I really have no idea what the demand is for fisheries management out here, but i'm exccelent in science, and pretty darn good in Math. Science may be my field of choice, i just have to make sure i take the right paths and figure out ecxactly what science I should get in to.
Thank you very much for everything, all comments are welcome
BEN god bless
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ben23 | Thu May-05-05 01:09 PM |
Member since Apr 09th 2004
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#3087, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 26
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Thanks guys
I pray every night for God's guidance so I can work it out, I know no matter what you guys tell me that its God's plan, i just want general ideas of what I should be thinking about and praying about.
Right now i'm thinking about the fishery Biologist type of thing. Maybe work for the Department of Natural Reasources. Maybe i could be the person that studies the fish and growing habits,or the people who help new ponds get started/managed. I dont know what type of demand they have out here in MD, but the potomac river and the chesapeak bay offer potintial studies.
God bless
BEN god bless
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VenBrone | Sat May-07-05 03:44 PM |
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#3088, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 27
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Ben, Dont think about this now. Not one bit.learn, fish, and play basketball as long as you possibly can. Thats when the jobs start popping up out of no where. Dont worry about it now. you are fine. just have fun. When your parents make you get a job, then get one at sportfishing place where you can fish for free whenever you are off.
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ben23 | Sat May-07-05 07:16 PM |
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#3090, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 29
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i agree with both of you, and I think I know what your talking about
I cant let myself be consumed by finding career options, when I should just be a kid
But I also need to make sure i keep education and the chance for a good career first
THANKS GUYS
Keep it coming
BEN god bless
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ben23 | Mon May-16-05 12:49 PM |
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#3103, "RE: Career options in FISHING?"
In response to Reply # 31
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wow , thanks for the extensive reply!
VERY INFORMATIVE!!!!!
This is a lot to absorb and I'm starting to write all of these suggestions down!! again, thanks
BEN
GOD BLESS god bless
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