Thanks for the info Wade. Where does everyone out here surf fish? In all the beaches I have been to out here, I have never seen one surf fisherman. I would enjoy hooking up with someone and going fishing. I can share some of the techniques we use out at Hatteras. I don't know if they would apply out here. I have seen some people posting shark fishing. I think some of my big rods may suit me well to that type of fishing. I also have some light tackle rods that I use when we fish for grey and speckled trout. We typically use a green or greenish style grub on a 1/4 oz. red head jig. From what I have read, it sounds like your swimbait tactics.