Wow. The instrumental values shared among fellow board members here are re-iterated throughout various posts as seen above. The real reason for biological field testing is to advance human kind farther than we ever imagined. The commercialism effect on science has regressed some people to make statements that are not necessarily true. IE Red is invisible under water. When somebody says something about a product, its always good to see if there is a motive first. The person that said that might have worked for Berkely or another fishing co. A clear and obvious motive would be to sell their red products. Do we believe everything we hear? Unforunately, all to much we do. The stuff that is on TV, all the commercials....Very rarely does somebody investigate if the commercials are respresnting the full truth. And my assumption would be that very rarely does the commercial industry represnt truth. Instead, subbing out the truth for money. In all, life is good. And I want to go fishing. Also, the systematic approach that I use to go fishing is so complicated I would crash the entire calfishing website if I was to explain it. Actually I can sum up my systematic approach like this: go with your instincts. And most importantly of all.....Don't listen to dock talk. Don't listen to anyone. I've never gotten on some amazing, big fish bite by listening to a bunch of drunk rednecks talk about fishing...I've gotten on big fish by using common sense and going with my instincts.....And, finally, I'm going fishing. Thank you.