I'll check the Cabela's magazine...Yeah rod wrapping seems pretty fun and i will probably end up doing some rods and see how they turn out...but we'll see if it is as easy as it seems in the books and just the way its done... to me the hardest part would probably be getting the spine perfect and then wrapping the guides straight... I'll send u an eamil brian... and woodsac that for the offer but fow ill have to pass cause im pretty into the swimbaits and i'll probably give rod wrapping a wait so i can do my studying on it first... but when the time comes that ill need one of the motors ill give you a ring... Thanks Guys!!!