i tried the tailless spider grub today. worked out pretty good. hooked it weightless with a 3/0 red EWG hook and pitched it into pine branches that some gardeners had left in the lake. my technique was to let it fall on slack line, deadstick it on the bottom for a bit then retrieve it slowly. during the retrieval part i would alternate between lots of short jerks, slow and long jerks which mmade it glide and just steady retrieving. i caught a few fish, most were during the fall, got on the dead stick and 2 while jerking it back in. and i finally used up all those twintails.